Saturday, October 11, 2008

Creationist Junk Debunked

I'm making a slight diversion from my creationist astronomy activities to promote some excellent creationist busting by others.

Here is a link to a series of videos which examines creationist claims as violations of the Ninth Commandment. In case you're a little rusty, it's “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” in the Protestant tradition (see Ten Commandments).

Be sure to check out more of the videos in this series by Potholer54debunks.
Creationist Junk Debunked.

Now some creationists might claim that 'evolutionists' or 'Darwinists' aren't their 'neighbors'. What does Jesus say about who is and isn't your neighbor? Easy enough to check:

  • Matt 5:43-47.
    “You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy'. But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be children of your Father in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers and sisters, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?

    Note that Jesus is telling his followers that it is how you treat people different from yourself which determines if you are one of his followers. I suspect that those so-called christians who helped generate the recent statistic that atheists are the most despised group in America may be at the head of the pack leading into Hell.

  • Also consider Luke 10:25-37, aka the Parable of the Good Samaritan.

Do you know what Jesus says about the status those who invoke his name while violating 'the will of the Father'? Check out Matt 7:15-23:
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut own and thrown into the fire Thus you will know them by their fruits.
Not everyone who says to me 'Lord, Lord', will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. On that day, many will say to me, 'Lord Lord did we not prophesy in you name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?' Then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.'
Jesus points out that it is your actions, far more than your words, that tell the true status of your faith.

Methinks Hell will be full of creationists!


  • The Harper Collins Study Bible. New Revised Standard Version. 1993.


Ryan said...

Your comment that hell will be full of Creationists appears to be a non sequitur. Perhaps what you mean to say is that with so many examples of dogmatists who are full of spite and anger, it might appear that one leads to the other. However, its only fair to point out that spiteful dogmatists are spread about equally on both sides of the naturalism/creationism debate. If you've read works by Dawkins, Hitchens, or Harris you'll know what I mean. As for the video, it seems to be of the lowest form of ad hominem. Yes, there are mistakes caught on video, but to be of intellectual value it really ought to engage the creationist arguments at their highest. None of those questions that are really difficult for naturalism were even mentioned here.

W.T."Tom" Bridgman said...

Then you've missed the point.

Belief in Creationism is not proof of being a Christian, nor does being a Christian require a belief in Creationism.

I think creationism is one of positions used to make someone appear to be a Christian without actually practicing the Golden Rule. This would mean their faith is not real and they would be the 'wolves in sheep's clothing'.

I place Dawkins and others who promote the militant stance against religion in the same category as religious people who speak of 'cultural war' or who express hatred against atheists or other faiths. The Golden Rule is a defined part of Christian faith but it also makes good SECULAR sense. Those who can't put it into practice, or at least make a good faith effort, cannot be called Christians.