tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361412992308994774.post6829565725906781098..comments2023-11-19T19:19:12.773-05:00Comments on Dealing with Creationism in Astronomy: Electric Sun: Another Problem with Heliospheric "Drift Currents"W.T."Tom" Bridgmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10889134728080314165noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361412992308994774.post-74283462751786861632012-05-15T20:11:53.165-04:002012-05-15T20:11:53.165-04:00To Anonymous:
What you describe would be more appr...To Anonymous:<br />What you describe would be more appropriate to the post <a href="http://dealingwithcreationisminastronomy.blogspot.com/2012/04/electric-universe-fantasies-heliopause.html" rel="nofollow">Electric Universe Fantasies & Heliopause Electrons. II.</a> but it is okay here.<br /><br />Apparently the link to the paper you describe did not come through. Please try again, it sounds worthwhile to add to my collection.<br /><br />The mechanism you describe is not unreasonable. <br /><br />It is a field generated by velocity separations that is part of the Pannekoek-Rosseland field and some solar wind models (see <a href="http://dealingwithcreationisminastronomy.blogspot.com/2012/02/365-days-of-astronomy-electric-universe.html" rel="nofollow">365 Days of Astronomy: The Electric Universe</a>). The difference in kinetic energy of the charged particles provides the energy to maintain the field. The field would cover a large region, but it would probably be very weak. Integrating over the size of the heliopause, it could provide substantial acceleration to a small population of charged particles. <br /><br />Such a mechanism is mathematically tractable and could yield actual testable values. <br /><br />I would not be at all surprised if EUers try to appropriate it as 'their' idea.W.T."Tom" Bridgmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10889134728080314165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361412992308994774.post-49521278857977878642012-05-15T15:19:19.818-04:002012-05-15T15:19:19.818-04:00i think this applies, but forgive me if I am incor...i think this applies, but forgive me if I am incorrect: It is a widely held belief that a large-scale electric field of any significant magnitude cannot be present in the heliosphere because of electric currents through the highly conductive plasma, present throughout the heliosphere, which would immediately neutralize any nascent electric fields. This paper questions that longstanding belief and describes a mechanism to account for such a field. Some of the galactic cosmic ray (GCR) ions lose almost all of their kinetic energy from solar modulation and, due to their short radii of gyration, are effectively deposited continuously throughout the heliosphere inside the solar wind termination shock. It is pointed out here that the deposition of these ions occurs at a greater rate than that for GCR electrons, and that a large-scale static electric field is sustained by the ions because of the time delay in the arrival of neutralizing electron currents.<br />IEEE Xplore electric and plasma sociteyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361412992308994774.post-44513397945939765072012-05-07T21:29:42.033-04:002012-05-07T21:29:42.033-04:00To Jeffery Keown,
I actually tried to look at tha...To Jeffery Keown,<br /><br />I actually tried to look at that question. The funny part is when I looked at anything where they *started* on the right track, they very quickly flew off the rails.W.T."Tom" Bridgmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10889134728080314165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361412992308994774.post-86316780092788607692012-05-07T16:50:16.328-04:002012-05-07T16:50:16.328-04:00Sometimes, it seems as if the easier task would be...Sometimes, it seems as if the easier task would be noting what the EU guys got <i>right</i>. <br /><br />But maybe that would have a negative effect on the whole of science.Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.com